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now there's sound right roger dodger

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sound now

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yeah i had my mute button on catherine

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just just let me know their sound and i

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good have like an hour before

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the next lecture which is don schmidt on

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roswell

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um so mark sims began

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talking about his experience his

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experience in 2012

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so he signed up for a ce5 with greer

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they had a sighting on the fifth night i

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think it was a six night event

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went back to his hotel room

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and this he was meditating

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and this being showed up at the end of

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the bed

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and this is what it looked like

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so the original

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and that being was called

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teshbar hopefully i'm pronouncing it

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properly

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pencil sketch

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on the left computed computer

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illustration on the right

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he could tell that it was non-physical i

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mean you could see it you could see

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through it

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so that was his

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he had no concept of an e he wasn't a

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ufo guy so he said he had no concept of

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an e.t being

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not being physical

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so he wondered you know

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did that ufo that just appeared out of

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nowhere he said everybody saw it i

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missed that picture

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um but he said did it de-cloak and then

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this being did it come from another

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dimension uh was it a holographic

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projection or a light being

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and like i said he was all new new to

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he thought maybe you know it was like

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everybody when you first get into this

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he thought maybe it was a highly

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advanced technologically advanced being

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from a civilization and visiting from

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other planets and it came here with his

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with a starship that was his mindset

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but then this being came up to him and

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and i guess melded with him is the best

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way to put it

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he had this contact for 13 days

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for 13 days it communicated with him so

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i guess it's like channeling but i mean

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trans channeling is i think trans

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channeling is when you let the being

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enter and channeling is just like from

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some distance where it's

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telepathic so i would say this is kind

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of like chance channeling trans

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channeling and for 13 days as far as he

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knows nobody in the community anybody

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he's never heard of a story where they

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they had 13 days of contact and it just

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started telling him how the how the

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universe worked

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let me skip this picture

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for a second and i will get to

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his slideshow and i will put him in

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and like i said a lot of this stuff i'm

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i'm not going to spend too much time but

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he went over it in depth

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and here's a better picture

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of that

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and it started communicating saying

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what's important is to join together the

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the astral is the stage and remember

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guys i'm i'm i've had a background of

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metaphysics but

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you know some of this stuff

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not only new but it's not stuff i would

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talk about but people want to hear what

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went on so i'm going to share it

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uh astral stage of development it's a

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the astral body that's important

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bar claimed to be a celestial being and

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that's at the top

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and i'll explain that in a second

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non-physical and emerged with mark's

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and then the eye

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the eye represents the big bang

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and then the pyramid shows the universe

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getting larger and larger over time

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arrows represent linear time since the

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big bang in one direction

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and he he equates the creation of the

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and this is all through teshbar so

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even trance material but this is what he

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and he's very passionate about it and

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he's sharing it

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like i said it's not the kind of stuff i

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would be sharing on

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day one if somebody asked me about the

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phenomenon and i probably wouldn't share

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it on day 100 but

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even though some of this stuff is out

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so expanding universe pure unified

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consciousness as it expands it's cooling

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not clear sorry as it grows it hits a

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harmonic resonance barrier he likened it

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a change that matter goes through when

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it goes from a gas to liquid this is the

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formation you know the formation of the

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universe the early universe was super

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rapidly expanding then at the leading

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edge it cools down and condensation

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first realm and a lot of this is

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analogies uh to water ice and and steam

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expands like water like water freezes

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into ice the last part is the physical

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and then he had this chart after all the

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information was shared with him

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shared with him he had this chart and

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consciousness and like i said it's

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printout so you could read it a little

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he said the physical has five senses

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five senses you know the five senses

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and you need the physical body to have a

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physical experience

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a human being is much more in risk being

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a human being is much more enriching and

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dense of an experience of consciousness

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this is real true metaphysics if you've

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needed to focus on it and then he would

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have access to the akashic record

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and i know this is not the normal stuff

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can have a physical experience these

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teshbar merged with him

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and could see through mark sims's eyes

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and experience with what mark sims was

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and remember for me everything is

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prefaced prefaced by allegedly because

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this is mark telling his story

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we have gone through thousands and

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thousands of lifetimes in the animal

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the next micro stage

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you need to procreate that's how you

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said you have to be in the animal

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and says you know when you're created

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you need to be afraid of your prey

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physical dimensions to complex complex

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it doesn't have a human it could be a

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praying mantis being could be here's one

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could be avian like a blue avian he

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this gives rice a rise to other races on

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ascension and ascension is a loaded word

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i mean i've heard ascension for so long

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we were gonna ascend

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when uh 2012 came you know we're gonna

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ascend and disappear if you've ever read

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the um

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a really famous book by james redford

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i forget what it's called you guys might

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remember it famous book uh you know

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basically you ascend and you disappear

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you're not physical anymore so

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if you meet the requirements of a

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ascension you can shed your physical

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body you can recall all previous

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lifetimes with and most recent having

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lifetime if you adjust you'll have more

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recall of past lives and it's very

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confusing

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information rising all at once you'll

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meet loved ones who have passed on this

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and those are the ones that tell you

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it's not time to die you got to go back

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and the loved ones are there so you

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don't freak out at your new surroundings

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and i know i'm missing details but

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there's a lot of details he talks about

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soul groups which i'm not a fan of that

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but i've heard of it

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from when i read many lives and many

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masters by brian

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whitton maybe

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interesting book talking about how you

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know allegedly planning your life

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between this life and it was all done

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uh just as a a reference to hypnosis

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there's a there's a book called life in

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the 21st century hypnosis looking at

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life in the future and

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all of those predictions talk i think we

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should have had all that should have

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happened by now and none of it has

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the timing is off or it's

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nonsense

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and astral stage deals with beings in

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the next advanced level the non-physical

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beings can commune with the celestial

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beings which are above and occupy a

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physical body some contact cases feature

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encountering a cold being you know

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they're like robotic he said it could be

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like it's they're taking on that body as

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an avatar the real consciousness is

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somewhere else

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that's why they kind of seem a little

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cold that was one of his that's a theory

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i guess of his

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and celestial levels deal with beings

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think of it as a cell in the body

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of god or the universe once in the

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astral level it's like joining with

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other beings like working in concert

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with other heart cells do you guys want

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to hear this do you want do you want me

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to skip over to some of the other

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lectures

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this is really metaphysical based

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he said archangels exist in the

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celestial level i believe according to

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teshbar he believes enoch was an

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archangel

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says uap phenomenon is in part

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describing higher dimensional beings

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manifesting into our reality from a

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higher dimension now that

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yeah if you're nuts and bolts you don't

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like that but for somebody like me i

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think that's what's going on at least

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with some of what we're seeing

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or

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extraterrestrials if they're e.t they

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okay roger dodger likes it so i'll keep

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going

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it says a family tree of beings it's

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very complex it's all one

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uh there were there was the atomic atom

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and the an adamic first star and first

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celestial body

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you know

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i think i'm almost done but let me just

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go through all of his slides so at least

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so that's the development of the actual

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body there are the four the four

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lifetimes so i guess you can be a fly a

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frog a swan a wolf and then you get to

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be human those are the four

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anthropods amphibians birds mammals

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humans

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and you're supposed to as a as the fly

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procreate frogs procreate

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swan mate and raise your young wolf mate

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and raise your young and then

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our big goal as humans master

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the three realms of creation

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i'll have you look at that because i do

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not have i think i passed my notes on

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that or did not take

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and everything flows from the top

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says there was the adamic atom in the

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endemic first star and first celestial

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body linear time

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we experience time goes in one direction

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imaginary time is on consciousness side

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come back can go back in time via the

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akashic record and grab information from

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any time focus on the future we can

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focus on the future and increase you

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know this is something i've studied with

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manifesting with one of my favorite

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manifesting authors is

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mitch horowitz i love the guy i mean

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as far as

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conservative manifesting books he is the

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guy um

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so he says if you focus on the future

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you can increase probability of

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manifesting that future reality

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and if we work together doing that we

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can increase the probability of a future

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outcome

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that's if humanity comes together and we

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get

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five billion people met trying to

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meditate on the same

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subject

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another one of his uh slides

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detailing the different realms

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celestial astral and then the bottom one

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is physical where we experience space

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time i don't think anybody else

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experiences linear time like us

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if you believe there are other realms

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again his uh

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drawing

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and the computer output on the right

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okay that's ice weinstein

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so mark says

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we need to right the ship because we're

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not treating our planet well we have the

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help of our astral and e.t friends who

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are watching and cheering us

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they are clapping but we need to reach

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out to them before they will help and if

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you listen to anything at the far side

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institute the remote viewing they say

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the same thing

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they say the whatever beings are here

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that want to help they're not going to

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help unless we reach out as as a species

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and mark says we need to do it as a

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human family and offer our hand in

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friendship hopefully they'll assist us

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so let me go to eric

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and here's first

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his first slide

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great way to start it's pretty funny

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i'm not going to release other people's

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slides um

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but well i shouldn't say that it was

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part of the lecture and i'm allowed to

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transcribe so i will probably put

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on the ones that i do transcribe and i'm

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not going to transcribe everything on

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the on the lectures i transcribe i will

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yeah i'll put the slides and you need

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so he starts out

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his credentials he hates ufos

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no background in this field and i'll let

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you guys read that while i read some of

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he goes i find it a little bit unusual

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because in fact i'm known as somebody

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who does not want to talk about ufos and

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that was true until earlier this year

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i really disliked the subject entirely

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and then he talks about the nothing

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burger

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and he says right now oh he says

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i hate ufos

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i don't go out and look for your ufos

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and up until

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early this year he was a staunch ufo

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disbeliever

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and he says

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i simply removed myself and i'm going to

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read the slide i don't have this in my

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notes i simply removed myself from any

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conversation about ufos or would attempt

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to shut down as if it were about actual

441
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projection reincarnation spoon bending

442
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or astrology it's interesting he lumped

443
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all of those together and

444
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it's huge i mean people don't understand

445
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i mean

446
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we'll get to his panel but he

447
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he did eventually start repeating one

448
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specific point which was a little

449
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annoying to me because i had i have some

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sort of answer that they weren't

451
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discussing um

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but the fact that somebody like him is

453
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interested in this and you could tell

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it's just he's just a brilliant thinker

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he's some he thinks like i don't think i

456
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don't think i can't think like that well

457
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maybe i can learn but

458
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hopefully hopefully one day you get to

459
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hear him talk about this stuff because

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um

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it was a different different experience

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than what i'm used to hearing at a ufo

463
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conference i mean there are some

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thinkers i mean richard dolan um but

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weinstein is just it's a different

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experience listening to somebody who

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never had an interest in ufos

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he says

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right now we're living in an incredibly

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dangerous place in the world as we all

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know if you look out the door what's

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going on um there's people that have

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always thought the world was ending you

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know but right now it seems extra dicey

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uh we can can we escape our fate on

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earth by going beyond the solar system

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um and if we live

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if we if we can that means

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others can visit if we can get off so

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out of the solar system and visit that

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means others can come here

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and he said

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he had many old questions what is the

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what was the golden age of general

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relativity all about

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and what caused it why were many good

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researchers on the periphery of ufo

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anti-gravity research in the 40s and 70s

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tyler rogoway has done an article on

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that you know all these companies

491
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researched anti-gravity they got very

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close and nick cook has written about

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this and all of a sudden

494
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everything went black and ross coltar

495
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talks about

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just one woman from china that dave

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beatty told me about a long time ago

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lynn i forget her name uh but

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yeah she was involved in that and then

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she disappeared i believe she's working

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in china now according to ross

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and he says

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i also had a big question could we

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escape our fate on earth by going beyond

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the solar system using the final theory

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of physics and if we can is anyone else

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and how do we get it's hard to get

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around the universe with if you're

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so the fermi paradox

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fermi paradox is basically

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if there are all these life

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intelligences out there why haven't they

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visited us that's the question and of

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course we all think they have visited us

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at least one

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and he talks about talks about

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this place north central sentinel island

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and they had the

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the people who live there have this is

520
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interesting this analogy he says the

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people who live there

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you know they've not been contacted

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they're left to be alone

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they're

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very

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i'm trying to think of the word they

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have no technology

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if you get close to them they'll fire

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their weapons

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and india

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has left them alone for the most part

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they leave them alone

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but

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you know what would happen

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if those

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islanders

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all of a sudden

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figured out

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how to how to um

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00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,120
what is it with nuclear uh

541
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the atom

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they figured out nuclear energy nuclear

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fission fusion

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if the islanders figured that out would

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india still

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avoid them

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you know

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would they just let them do what they're

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gonna do

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and he's making the analogy you know

551
00:27:01,590 --> 00:27:00,080
he's making the analogy we've heard

552
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,600
about you know we started getting all

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00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,880
this activity

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when

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00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,679
we started testing our nukes and that's

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00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,120
when you saw a lot more activity there

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00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:08,960
was activity in the 30s you know your

558
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,200
stories but it seemed to an uptick once

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00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,039
we uh

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once we figured out nuclear energy and

561
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:16,400
we had our we had nukes and we were

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testing all that and then they became

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allegedly apparently they became more

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00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,440
interested so

565
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,039
you know it was an interesting analogy

566
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to see you know if these islanders had

567
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:27,279
you know became technologically advanced

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would the indians

569
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:31,520
would india protect you know jump in and

570
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,000
put an end to that or at least show a

571
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,080
bigger presence to try to guide them in

572
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,240
a different direction like supposedly

573
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:39,919
these beings are doing with us if some

574
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,310
and how far beyond

575
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,440
how far behind us would they really be

576
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,200
you know how how long would it take them

577
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:53,120
if all of a sudden they advanced

578
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,760
technologically technologically how far

579
00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:57,520
how far and how long would it take them

580
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,950
is that what happened with e.t you know

581
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,640
that's my theory i don't think he said

582
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,149
now he goes into the

583
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:15,110
golden age of relativity and gravity and

584
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:16,720
i need to look those people up i will

585
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,149
but he goes into the uap report

586
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,760
he said he thought the report was

587
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,600
astounding

588
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,440
didn't get a sense it was a unified

589
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,840
voice so he thought whoever was writing

590
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:34,320
the uap report it came from different

591
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,039
factions and likely there was not an

592
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:38,960
agreement about what type you know any

593
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,310
one group of authors appears to favor

594
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,640
public disclosure and but that may be

595
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,720
the the weaker group which is

596
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,039
interesting uh

597
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,200
a second group appears to want limit

598
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,640
want to limit disclosure and may

599
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,799
currently be more powerful but waning in

600
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,480
ability that's exactly what we want to

601
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,840
hear and we've heard that from lou he

602
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,960
said

603
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,039
the old guard is dying out not literally

604
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,960
but he goes they're losing their power

605
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,640
and if that's happening that's a really

606
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,720
good that's a really good thing for us

607
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:10,240
they're losing their ability to control

608
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:12,960
the narrative their emphasis has

609
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,679
have shifted from total denial

610
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:18,000
to now they're just not in denial but

611
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:19,520
now they're avoiding anything before

612
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,760
2004 or pre-2000 you know 2009 19

613
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:25,120
somewhere in there they're not going

614
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:28,720
back to roswell and he pointed that out

615
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:34,950
they hide the most important things by

616
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:38,159
not making a big deal about it so and

617
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,919
it's something that jumped out to a few

618
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,960
of us

619
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:42,320
i'm not sure if somebody pointed it out

620
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,000
to me or i noticed it probably somebody

621
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,520
pointed it out to me because i probably

622
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,600
missed it too but signature manager

623
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:49,520
signature management you know they're

624
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,559
trying to hide they're adjusting things

625
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,520
it could be you know it could be um

626
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,760
cloaking or something else

627
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,600
what's interesting is bob fish talked

628
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,279
about these ufos going in and out of the

629
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:03,520
water on the east coast off of florida

630
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,640
and

631
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,240
they know that signal so they're not

632
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,240
even attempting you know they're not

633
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:10,080
even attempting to manage their

634
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,520
signature they're going in and out we

635
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:13,600
know about them according to fish but we

636
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:16,399
just leave them alone

637
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:17,440
so

638
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,559
two times and they didn't even pick on

639
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,159
pick up on the signature management so

640
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:23,600
he thinks that was the way it was

641
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,320
written it was intended to hide things

642
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:28,720
in there so it doesn't jump out

643
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:29,840
and then he talks about different

644
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:36,870
let's see if that's uh so yeah the

645
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,440
categories

646
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,200
airborne clutter

647
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:43,520
atmospheric phenomena us government or

648
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:46,000
industry foreign government or industry

649
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:47,679
and other

650
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:53,990
he doesn't think

651
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,640
one second he goes

652
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,399
he thinks there are probably multiple

653
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:00,799
types of uap

654
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:02,399
if and when

655
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,909
and this report means

656
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,840
these encounters

657
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,159
are unresolved he goes other to him does

658
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:16,480
not mean it's unresolved

659
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,320
yeah so in the report these reports

660
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:22,159
if they if they label it other he does

661
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,080
not think it's unresolved in other words

662
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:26,000
they think it's they don't they're not

663
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:27,120
guessing they're not saying well we

664
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:28,240
don't know what it is while they do

665
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:29,600
they've ruled out everything and they've

666
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:32,799
labeled it other um and then he got into

667
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,389
oh one more thing on that slide

668
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:42,159
that's i already said that

669
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,990
so if it has if it's lacking in tension

670
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,360
it's probably just atmospheric or

671
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:51,760
non-atmospheric clutter uh but if it has

672
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,480
intention then you go is it us no it's

673
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:57,360
not u.s it's non-us is it known foreign

674
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,399
no

675
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,799
so it's other

676
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,720
and he doesn't think under he doesn't

677
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,640
think other is a catch-all he thinks

678
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,159
it's a specific

679
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:07,919
it's specific based on the idea that

680
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,480
we've eliminated all other categories

681
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,240
it's an unknown

682
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,159
foreign and i put that in quotes of

683
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:15,440
power

684
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,399
and

685
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:18,320
so it's not another country it's

686
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,440
something else

687
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,880
and he's

688
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:22,799
he's clear to say that

689
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,760
eric is not saying it's aliens

690
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:27,039
but he thinks

691
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:28,799
the person who wrote the report thinks

692
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:31,600
some of these some of this is et

693
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,240
intelligence so eric weinstein believes

694
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,240
that whoever wrote the report at least

695
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:38,080
one person thinks that some of these

696
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:40,080
objects

697
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,679
are of e.t intelligence

698
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,120
he thinks there's a tug of war between

699
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,279
different folks who wrote the report but

700
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,279
one group insisted in getting something

701
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:51,600
in there to show folks some of it is not

702
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:54,320
foreign or u.s tech

703
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,120
e.t don't know

704
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:59,519
he says it's not going to say aliens

705
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:01,360
how to avoid triggering you know and

706
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,710
triggering something in a geopolitic so

707
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,880
he's basically saying he said that um

708
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:10,000
they want to make sure they're not

709
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,519
saying it's china or russia because

710
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,360
china and russia may react to that maybe

711
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,760
some geopolitical you know upheaval and

712
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,519
they're upset at us so he's trying you

713
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:19,519
know they put that in there to make sure

714
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:21,279
they know we're not saying it's their

715
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,679
technology that's a pretty big point you

716
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,200
know that he's saying they're they're

717
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:27,360
they're telling you it's it's not russia

718
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,799
it's not china

719
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,720
it's something else so russian china

720
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,399
don't be mad at us we're not we're not

721
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,159
talking to you and don't ask me about

722
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:36,080
i'm sure there are people that would say

723
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,519
you don't know what you're talking about

724
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:39,679
foreign you know political all that

725
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:43,039
stuff but i'm just saying what he said

726
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:44,799
he said

727
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:47,440
400 percent sure it's not a foreign

728
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,679
power that's him

729
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,000
he puts a tremendous amount of emphasis

730
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,399
on other

731
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,399
so this is what i just said it comes

732
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:58,000
across and i'm not sure if he said this

733
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,760
i have to i'll have to do the transcript

734
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,279
once again he said the report puts a

735
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:03,120
tremendous amount of emphasis on other

736
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,640
and make sure we don't start something

737
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,480
with china or russia so they're clear

738
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:08,480
about that and he says

739
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,950
and no you know we'll get to that in a

740
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,960
second he goes not going back to 2004

741
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:18,720
doesn't pass the laugh test he goes it's

742
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:20,960
preposterous to start it there he goes

743
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,320
one set of report report authors authors

744
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,720
wanted it like that it would show govern

745
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,960
if if you did go beyond 2004 he says it

746
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,240
would show the government made people

747
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,280
look foolish destroyed their careers

748
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,679
so they did not go back before two

749
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,599
thousand four in in his opinion that's

750
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:39,760
why they didn't do that

751
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,470
he is frustrated because

752
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:48,550
classified videos have been ignored he

753
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:54,710
this report would not have been issued

754
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:57,599
if we didn't have much much better data

755
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,400
that's that's eric saying that

756
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,359
that's that's interesting you know

757
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:05,520
he's not he's gone from a total

758
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,880
basically extreme skeptic to saying

759
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,880
this report wouldn't have been written

760
00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:12,720
or issued if they had didn't have much

761
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:14,839
better data

762
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,320
and the uap appears to possess advanced

763
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:20,160
technology

764
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:32,950
i think i read that already

765
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:35,510
these ufos treat einstein as a stepping

766
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,720
stone

767
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:38,640
this is him saying this things that

768
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:41,200
appear to be getting beyond

769
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,119
faster than light limit but that may not

770
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:48,000
be what's going on

771
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:49,599
he thinks the whole

772
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,960
i don't know why that's doing that but

773
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:52,720
he thinks the whole fast faster than

774
00:36:02,310 --> 00:35:56,880
light travel argument is a red herring

775
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:08,470
there it is

776
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:10,310
he worries about getting us off this

777
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:11,359
planet

778
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:12,960
you know at the level of physics we

779
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:15,280
understand right now but that means

780
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,960
it does mean others could be coming here

781
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,720
other dimensions

782
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:20,400
i think somebody might be able to hack

783
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:23,359
dimensions uh we can't eric davis talks

784
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:24,960
about how he thinks they're coming from

785
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,680
another dimension whether

786
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,800
extraterrestrial or not they're coming

787
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,400
from somewhere and he thinks eric davis

788
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,560
thinks they're using other dimensions uh

789
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:34,480
we're at obviously at a technical

790
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:38,000
technological disadvantage

791
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:39,440
and that's his dimensional hacking

792
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,760
hacking slide

793
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,359
talking about talking about multiple

794
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:45,200
temporal dimensions in all higher

795
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,800
numbers of temporal dimensions there are

796
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,359
whirlpools orientations of time that

797
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,359
replace the arrow of time peculiar to

798
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,119
peculiar to our single known to portal

799
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:55,359
dimension

800
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,280
this stuff is above my head

801
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,520
but that's his slide there then he talks

802
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:01,839
about the voyager golden record we sent

803
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,470
and he said the people who spent sent

804
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:10,000
out those records

805
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,000
were not worried that you know that they

806
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,880
would hear us and then visit

807
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:16,320
and then one of the more interesting

808
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,270
was he spoke to sam harris who thought

809
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,920
if there were et's visiting

810
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:28,160
they'd be tens of thousands of years

811
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,599
beyond us

812
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,240
eric weinstein does not agree he said

813
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,480
we've made amazing progress in short

814
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,119
periods of time on this earth so

815
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,200
how close how close are we now to

816
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,760
understanding all the rules well we have

817
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:43,440
no idea how close we are we could be

818
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,670
i'm gonna leave these up not all this

819
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,400
matches my notes

820
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,920
he says

821
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,040
if

822
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,000
this is real where the hell are our

823
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,320
leading minds on this

824
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,160
current leading minds the

825
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:06,320
radical physicists they don't discuss

826
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,040
this the top guys have no idea what's

827
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,119
been going on on ufos they don't even

828
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,960
know about the new york times article

829
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:15,359
and this is all eric

830
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,720
he goes none of the

831
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:18,880
relevant people and and i've said and

832
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,280
other people have said

833
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,000
get these scientists read in let them

834
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:25,839
get read in and he says none of the

835
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:27,760
relevant relevant people have been read

836
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,440
in or have any special knowledge

837
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,440
if this turns out these are beyond our

838
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,359
solar system

839
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:37,359
they have been locked out of our top

840
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:38,640
minds

841
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,640
good actors because they have been read

842
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,480
in and they when he talks to them they

843
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,160
just totally make up you know i don't

844
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,920
know what you're talking about but he

845
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,599
thinks they've been locked out and that

846
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:52,320
does seem like the case

847
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,520
and then they got the q and a

848
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:58,400
let's see if this is my last one

849
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:01,200
yep that's the last one so

850
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,990
q a how has this changed your life eric

851
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:11,119
he says

852
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,720
i was lied to

853
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:14,480
i know what i'm lied to

854
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,079
this report wouldn't have been issued if

855
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:17,920
they had not been lying

856
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,480
it doesn't have primary data

857
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:22,400
something inside of government which

858
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,320
much with much better access to

859
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,000
information

860
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:28,160
is convinced we've been visited so yeah

861
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,520
he's saying there are groups inside the

862
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:31,760
government who have access to that data

863
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,640
and they're convinced we've been visited

864
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:36,560
doesn't know whose voice that is inside

865
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,599
government

866
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,280
basic take is

867
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:41,200
you've cut off your scientists now he's

868
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:42,800
talking to our government you've cut off

869
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,920
your scientists read them in we have a

870
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,359
situation

871
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,520
military airspace is being visited by

872
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,920
something intelligent and can disguise

873
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,320
itself and you don't read in your best

874
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,400
people because we're becoming a banana

875
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,800
republic it was really great i mean

876
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,880
this guy is saying what so many people

877
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,400
have said but he says it's so much

878
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,920
better it's because

879
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,079
i love having him on this on this

880
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,760
conference and this pat on the panel he

881
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,359
did

882
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,599
he says i'm not coming at this from a

883
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:13,920
spiritual or religious

884
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,560
angle just scientific and he understands

885
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,119
people discuss the consciousness aspect

886
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,359
and why people ask about it but he

887
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,960
avoids it he's not i'm not trying to

888
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,880
fill a hole in my life i don't need a

889
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:27,280
god and a silver spinning disc

890
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,319
uh

891
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:29,760
he does assume we'll understand

892
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,520
consciousness one day

893
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,599
and that may not be an exact quote but

894
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,760
he talked about consciousness but he

895
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,280
says right now there's no reason to talk

896
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,400
about consciousness

897
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:40,720
yet for him he wants to talk about

898
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,599
signature management dimension hacking

899
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,119
do they have better understanding of

900
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,119
physics science do our aerospace

901
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,359
companies become a repository

902
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:51,280
as for some of this information and i'm

903
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,750
someone indeed this is when he starts

904
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:01,520
getting i know the curse is coming up

905
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,400
soon

906
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,880
someone in dc is checking the time

907
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,560
someone in dc needs to call scientists

908
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,440
and talk to them did eric weinstein miss

909
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:11,359
this meeting you know did they did they

910
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,560
have it they forgot to call him he's

911
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,160
being sarcastic

912
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:16,000
call up the institute for advanced study

913
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,960
listen

914
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:18,960
there's several names and he lists

915
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:21,200
dewitt wheeler solomon and i forget the

916
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,560
guy's last name that they should be

917
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,319
involved in this some of the top names

918
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,240
theoretical physicists

919
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,240
he goes we have kind of a

920
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,240
leadership that doesn't call up these

921
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,240
because what kind of leadership

922
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,000
doesn't call up these big name

923
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:37,040
scientists and you could say that

924
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,160
for

925
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,400
every administration you know going back

926
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,000
he's not pointing to one specific

927
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:43,520
administration

928
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:45,200
he goes

929
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:47,680
if these things aren't real and you

930
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,960
wrote up this uap report the dni report

931
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,480
you should be kicked out of a government

932
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:54,560
kicked out of government if if they're

933
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,040
real and you didn't call scientists

934
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,200
you should be kicked out of government

935
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,359
you go he goes he doesn't know if it's

936
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:02,960
real he goes but then people talk about

937
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,280
this information he goes if this is diff

938
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:07,280
this information it's really bad this

939
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,560
information

940
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,079
you know and then he talks about the go

941
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,079
fast how it's weak data and i do agree

942
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,160
you know we hear about a 23-minute video

943
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,160
as much as excited we were to see the

944
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,280
tic tac and and go fast and gimbal

945
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,440
you know to get scientists right in they

946
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:23,760
need to see the good stuff

947
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:24,800
he goes

948
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,599
we've become the keystone cops and i'm

949
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,119
gonna curse because i want to read

950
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,440
exactly how he said it he goes read the

951
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,400
physicists into the program or shut the

952
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:37,359
up um it was great it's almost like

953
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,920
when danny sheehan used the f word he

954
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,079
goes it's really frustrating why are

955
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:44,160
scientists not present in this you've

956
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:47,119
denied them access to the data

957
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,640
he's worried about the

958
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,119
arrow of time in inter temporal trial

959
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:53,760
intertemporal travel and then

960
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,880
i don't know if that was a question and

961
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:56,319
then somebody says do you know about

962
00:43:01,349 --> 00:43:00,079
nassim harriman and that's a a physicist

963
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,359
he did not

964
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,040
so before i go and

965
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,520
go on

966
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:08,400
just go questions quick um

967
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,550
yeah well alpine i will get to that

968
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:18,560
panel in a second i haven't gotten there

969
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,520
yet

970
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:20,960
paddle was interesting it was a little

971
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:23,119
frustrating because there's some

972
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:24,800
interesting information that

973
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,160
you know they didn't tell him

974
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,480
call me up eric or read the transcript

975
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:32,000
eric davis talks about how he got that

976
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:37,910
it's not me i just transcribed it

977
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:45,270
who are we is more important than who

978
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,200
they are i kind of agree with that who

979
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,960
the hell are we as humans what can we

980
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:51,040
what are we capable of

981
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,640
you know these entities used to be part

982
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,560
of folklore jacques vale has talked

983
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,960
about that with fairies and

984
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:58,000
he goes

985
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,440
but then they entered again in the

986
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,040
atomic age

987
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,599
humans and the planets and visitors

988
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:05,520
part of which he believes is alien will

989
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,359
decide if we continue on this planet

990
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,599
in the early days

991
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,359
you know it was limited as far as what

992
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,359
people thought they were from

993
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,280
although in the 50s they they had the

994
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:19,280
paraphysical idea where they were coming

995
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,560
from another dimension i don't think

996
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,079
they used dimension back then but you

997
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,920
know early on they said are they coming

998
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,400
from venus mars and then betty and

999
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,800
barney uh hill talked about zeta

1000
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,880
reticuli and he's like is that even true

1001
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,400
he goes

1002
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,599
some claim

1003
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,160
they visited zeta reticuli and whitley

1004
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,560
thinks that's probably imaginary but

1005
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:40,640
there's no proof

1006
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,599
someone is here from somewhere else

1007
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,760
that's that's the basics of what he's he

1008
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,520
believes

1009
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,599
he has some of the the material i i

1010
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,440
believe it's part of arts parts that

1011
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,000
linda molten house sold to the stars he

1012
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:55,920
mentions jacques valet and the work of

1013
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,079
vale and nolan gary nolan

1014
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,920
and the uh the materials and the unknown

1015
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,920
isotopic ratios which we will hopefully

1016
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:03,280
hear about

1017
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:04,560
soon

1018
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:07,359
uh talks about various religions and

1019
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,800
how they already integrate these

1020
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,480
entities into the into their belief

1021
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,040
system islam has the gin you know it's

1022
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:15,760
been about been around a very long time

1023
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:18,720
indigenous culture has integrated the

1024
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,150
in pine ridge he goes he spent some time

1025
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,560
on the lakota reservation in 2019 it was

1026
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:29,920
a private event

1027
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,240
ufo showed up hung over the ceremony

1028
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,760
then moved off to the sweat lodge and

1029
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,520
hung over that

1030
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,880
tried to see if it was a drone or

1031
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,640
balloon you just did some research but

1032
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,960
he didn't think it was either so someone

1033
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:42,640
was making it known

1034
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:44,240
that they had an interest in their

1035
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,920
spiritual ceremony they were doing a

1036
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,359
sundance and he didn't get into it he

1037
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:49,359
just it was about showing women

1038
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,960
that men could appreciate the pain they

1039
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,440
go through it with childbirth

1040
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,520
and don't quote me on that

1041
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:57,359
he says danger of integrated past

1042
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,520
beliefs into current contact may distort

1043
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:01,920
it so yeah our previous beliefs may mix

1044
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:05,440
into what we think these beings are

1045
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:08,319
these must be the jinn but are they

1046
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,200
says man many entities in hinduism that

1047
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:12,720
that may be related to what we're

1048
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:14,720
dealing with now but we need to be

1049
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,319
careful be careful seeing it through a

1050
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,200
negative lens his wife passed away 2015

1051
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,200
or sort of passed away he says they're

1052
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:23,520
still together and sharing one body he

1053
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:27,839
wears both wedding rings and he mentions

1054
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,880
cardinal monsignor balducci monsignor

1055
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,880
baltucci uh

1056
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:35,119
and the pope thought and

1057
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,560
she didn't think this i don't think but

1058
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:38,079
the pope thought these visitors were

1059
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,839
demons and whitley's like why not

1060
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,440
and there's a book

1061
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,040
i don't know the name of it but he said

1062
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:46,960
every angel is terrible because their

1063
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:48,880
eyes are oh it's a good quote from this

1064
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,079
book which i don't have the name of it

1065
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:52,560
but he says every angel is terrible

1066
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,480
because their eyes reflect our truth and

1067
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,480
whitney whitley says he has seen that

1068
00:47:01,589 --> 00:47:00,640
when he faced these visitors face to

1069
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:01,599
face

1070
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,560
because i don't think they're

1071
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,880
necessarily angels we see them as much

1072
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,880
more than what they may be

1073
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,560
we're driven by our own reflection of

1074
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,720
our deeper self deepest selves it's hard

1075
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,480
to take that when you experience that he

1076
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,560
goes we need to get used to that

1077
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,400
he drank wine with balducci and they

1078
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,640
discussed the church's position

1079
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,800
about jesus and

1080
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:21,920
i'm going to skip that because i'm

1081
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,559
running out of time

1082
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,400
he lived with the visitors and was

1083
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,119
taught love compassion and humility

1084
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:30,800
need to forget that

1085
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,990
sorry i lost my place

1086
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:41,510
need to forget that the material with

1087
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,390
it may not be a world at all

1088
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,720
i forget the idea that the material was

1089
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,240
materialistic world is the only world

1090
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,240
forget that idea

1091
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,240
uh he's in contact with his wife saul

1092
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:59,760
and other souls

1093
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,559
asks his dead wife what's enlightenment

1094
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:04,000
she said it's what happens when there's

1095
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,549
how to conduct his life when everything

1096
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,400
is grounded in love he says how to

1097
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,400
accept humans he doesn't agree with

1098
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,000
these are things he always tries to work

1099
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,559
on people he likes how to deal with them

1100
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,000
how to deal with entities coming into

1101
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,240
his house he said our government has

1102
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,640
battled with the visitors

1103
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,079
he didn't really give too many details

1104
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,240
he goes they won't fight but if you

1105
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:30,559
fight them that's another story he goes

1106
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:32,000
if you start a war with them and he's

1107
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,440
talking about the greys because they

1108
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,680
will never let you in and never let you

1109
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:37,920
stop fighting if that's true that's

1110
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,400
scary if elements of humans keep

1111
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:42,559
fighting we'll be in a kind of trouble

1112
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,950
and the phenomenon he thinks

1113
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:51,200
is it physical aliens with a radically

1114
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,960
different nature than us yes but

1115
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:54,160
remember he's not saying

1116
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:55,839
extraterrestrial is are the dead

1117
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,710
others are not always in a physical

1118
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,800
state the others

1119
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,559
physical state is not the governing

1120
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:06,960
governing state of life then he talks

1121
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:14,549
seth josek and neil degrasse tyson he

1122
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,079
said who laughed at this on some late

1123
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,240
night show and others who agree with

1124
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,079
them

1125
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:21,760
he said

1126
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,559
debate debate isn't is it important he

1127
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,240
goes what's important is what's going on

1128
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:27,839
what's going to happen in the next 5 10

1129
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,440
15 years help us have a better dynamic

1130
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,800
relationship with work with the world

1131
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:34,240
around us including physical and

1132
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:40,390
people will go will go into shock as

1133
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,400
moore's revealed he had a skeptical

1134
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,720
physicist up at his old cabin if you

1135
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,880
read any of strieber's books communion

1136
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,640
transformation breakthrough and talks

1137
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:50,559
about the cabin where he had all this

1138
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:53,359
most of his experiences back then

1139
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,359
they were sitting in a place where

1140
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:57,040
people visiting him at the cabin were

1141
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,720
meditating in the early afternoon around

1142
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,640
the stone circle and then a clear shaft

1143
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,119
of light came down from above in the

1144
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,960
middle of the circle

1145
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:06,480
and as you look through it he says

1146
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,559
everything was suddenly perfect

1147
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,319
everybody spoke about it except the

1148
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:12,400
scientists who couldn't see the light

1149
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:14,240
and he had a headache after and whitley

1150
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:15,119
said

1151
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:16,720
really believes that was his brain

1152
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,520
fighting that image away if he saw that

1153
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,040
beam of light

1154
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,400
and the wonderful you know i don't know

1155
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,839
if the colors were brilliant but it

1156
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:25,760
looked amazing as you saw it if that

1157
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:27,680
scientist had seen that light his entire

1158
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,480
world view would have collapsed

1159
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:32,559
he goes we have to help people like that

1160
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,240
that's why eric weinstein is so

1161
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:35,839
important that's me talking that's not

1162
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:38,319
whitley same thing we have to help new

1163
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,710
he goes except for a small amount of

1164
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,319
humans on earth we are now almost

1165
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,559
completely soul blind we need to move we

1166
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:50,160
need to move through time and gather

1167
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,309
everything good guys you can still hear

1168
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,829
i'm gonna put that up which i don't

1169
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:05,520
always do i think it's the first time i

1170
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,390
yeah i'm not going to talk about

1171
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,920
angelique she was not part of this

1172
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,839
conference and i'm not gonna

1173
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:15,520
i'm gonna run out of time with this

1174
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,589
as we move forward in contact we need to

1175
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:25,200
learn how to step back many ways to do

1176
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,400
that he talks about he said it would

1177
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,800
take six hours to explain the path is a

1178
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:30,880
book of his it's based on the tarot of

1179
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,280
marcel marseille

1180
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,920
in france i'm saying it wrong

1181
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,520
intellectual and scientific communities

1182
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,280
contain our best minds and they're in

1183
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:41,200
denial on the biggest story in our

1184
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,240
history

1185
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,760
talks more about the shroud which i'm

1186
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,280
not going to get into and there are

1187
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,640
there are other books that disagree

1188
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:48,319
about the shroud i know this controversy

1189
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,160
on the shroud of turin and the image of

1190
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,910
aliens may be may not be that far ahead

1191
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,440
of us we need it we need to deal with

1192
00:52:02,829 --> 00:51:59,520
them on equal terms

1193
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:02,839
you know start with that humans have

1194
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:05,520
value there's some other things but i

1195
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:10,309
going to the

1196
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:18,390
whitley said more than i thought

1197
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,910
here's i'll tell i'll close the whitley

1198
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,520
part with this he goes

1199
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,359
he had an experience with the visitors

1200
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,440
years ago at dawn

1201
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,280
um he went outside to be with them he

1202
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:29,200
was at his cabin in february put his

1203
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,640
slippers and robe on went outside he

1204
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:31,920
thought he would go for a ride in their

1205
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,920
ufo that didn't happen he saw their

1206
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,720
craft and figures next to the craft

1207
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,640
and a voice in his head that said

1208
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,720
uh he goes you know we could do that now

1209
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,319
voices in the head using microwaves i

1210
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,680
don't know how they do it but he goes

1211
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,200
the voice it was almost like he had

1212
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,599
headphones on and the voice said come on

1213
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,839
come on he said it was a tough voice and

1214
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,720
he goes

1215
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:52,160
i'm thinking to myself if i go down

1216
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:54,160
there i may not come back i have my wife

1217
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,720
and kid in the cabin i couldn't risk it

1218
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,720
so he went back and he said there were

1219
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,440
three cries that came above the forest

1220
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:03,359
he said it was like oh

1221
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:04,160
oh

1222
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:07,920
sounds and three of the most emotionally

1223
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,160
complex sounds he's ever heard a year

1224
00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:12,480
before he can enjoy classical music but

1225
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:13,839
after hearing those sounds he goes it

1226
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,160
sounded like mud compared to that

1227
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:17,760
it was something different than what we

1228
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,309
here's another one last one

1229
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:26,240
we went we went on a walk with a gray he

1230
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,520
said he went on a walk with a grey in

1231
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,920
1998 in texas living in a condo he

1232
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,920
awakened and they were there walked

1233
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,280
through the streets

1234
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,400
he was inside this beings gestalt so he

1235
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,400
could feel what the being was falling

1236
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:40,240
experiencing and feeling as they were

1237
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,280
walking

1238
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,960
he felt he could see all kinds of things

1239
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,040
about the world that we don't see his

1240
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,359
condo looked like a badly formed crooked

1241
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,680
little burrow through his eyes

1242
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,119
it was like a half an hour experience

1243
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,599
when he got back he felt quite greasy

1244
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:55,599
and dirty and sweaty stressful as hell

1245
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,119
when he was with them

1246
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:59,119
he had no feeling on his skin though

1247
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,559
when he took a shower and he said they

1248
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,800
had given him some shot pinpricked him

1249
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:04,400
so he wouldn't suffer an allergic

1250
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:11,109
banner thanks for the comments sorry

1251
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,079
guys

1252
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,920
i know i'm running out of time and i

1253
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:15,599
know this is so much stuff it took too

1254
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:18,000
many notes

1255
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,359
panel

1256
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,839
of like 14 minutes

1257
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,839
so it was danny sheehan mark sims

1258
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,920
richard dolan eric weinstein and whitney

1259
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:27,680
strieber thank god mark sims went on for

1260
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:33,430
about how he um

1261
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:35,839
had this business it was really long but

1262
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,440
i didn't take notes on that because it

1263
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:39,760
was too detailed it wasn't really

1264
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,480
not related to what we're talking about

1265
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,160
so sheehan starts out you know average

1266
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:45,520
person has a hard time with someone

1267
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:48,079
tells them they had contact experience

1268
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,240
and sheen asked dolan to tell eric

1269
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,000
weinstein the most remarkable fact about

1270
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:54,480
ufos that convinced him so dolan says

1271
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,280
studying ufos for close to 30 years

1272
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,720
you know he went in little by little

1273
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,440
backed his way in worked on a ph phd on

1274
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,200
cold war studies and then stumbled upon

1275
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:05,839
timothy good timothy good's book above

1276
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,520
talks top secret

1277
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:09,280
he knew back then that it was all about

1278
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:11,280
the 40s and this will res initial

1279
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,640
research he didn't know if it was part

1280
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,240
of our history

1281
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:16,319
uh you know black budget stuff and a

1282
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,799
national security concern

1283
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,880
was it ever resolved these were dolan's

1284
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:22,240
thoughts early on

1285
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,920
he figured he figured he would figure

1286
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,680
out the entire thing in two to three

1287
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:27,440
months that's kind of like me

1288
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:29,280
when i got into this in 96 i thought it

1289
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:32,000
would all be resolved by 2000 i'm like

1290
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,240
yeah i was only off by 24 years

1291
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,000
he tries to stay conservative and he's

1292
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,760
talking to eric at this point he

1293
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:41,280
confident he's confident there's an

1294
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:42,559
overwhelming amount of government

1295
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:44,480
declassified documents that describe

1296
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,200
this ufo phenomenon over nukes air force

1297
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:49,040
base army base

1298
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,720
objects described by military or pilots

1299
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:54,400
and he talks about the twining memo you

1300
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:56,000
know this is a real phenomenon not

1301
00:56:02,950 --> 00:55:59,520
fictitious not visionary or fictitious

1302
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,960
it's real disc shaped is it german or

1303
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,920
russian

1304
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:05,440
doesn't look like it

1305
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:09,200
adversary but it's technological and

1306
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:11,680
this is dolan talking to eric

1307
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,520
they seem to have abilities week to

1308
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,520
manipulate space and time that we don't

1309
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,960
understand

1310
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,559
cannot prove its alien it's very

1311
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,880
difficult so eric

1312
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,000
says

1313
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,240
he crossed over from a disbeliever to

1314
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,400
being open to explore it and then dolan

1315
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,720
says some of this is black budget some

1316
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,880
of this advanced tech and he mentions a

1317
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,359
ben rich comment but he go it's he goes

1318
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,359
it's not the explanation since we had

1319
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,839
ufos in the 40s so you know on multiple

1320
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:39,599
sensors traveling multiple thousand

1321
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:41,119
miles per hour

1322
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:42,720
lots of documents

1323
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,920
some folks believe they've had

1324
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,680
encounters with non-humans i was getting

1325
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,040
a little nervous i don't i didn't know

1326
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:49,440
how eric would react react to that he

1327
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:52,000
goes dolan goes his best guess is they

1328
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:53,920
come from another planet

1329
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:56,240
humans are interesting to study are they

1330
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:58,000
i mean that's him that's dolan saying

1331
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,880
you know

1332
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:00,480
maybe we're interesting to study maybe

1333
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,040
they're checking us out so eric says he

1334
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:05,440
knows danny sheen

1335
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,480
because of the way he kept the

1336
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,799
government in check over the years

1337
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,160
he talks about i know the government

1338
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,040
lies and destroys lives

1339
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:15,040
and the government has data that i can't

1340
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:16,319
see

1341
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:17,680
so the government he says he's speaking

1342
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:18,640
to them he said you've made

1343
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:21,040
contradictory claims were you lying back

1344
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,440
then are you lying now

1345
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,960
he goes are they trying to fool the

1346
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,720
russians into thinking we're in contact

1347
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,319
with et's and that's you know when i

1348
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:29,760
talk about crash retrievals and eric

1349
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,559
davis i'm like is it possible that whole

1350
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,559
crash retrieval program is us trying to

1351
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:36,000
make the russians think we have some

1352
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:37,359
technology

1353
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,040
it's possible but they talked about that

1354
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:41,200
back in the early 50s that when you know

1355
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,799
four years after roswell came out four

1356
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,720
or so years i don't think that's what's

1357
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:46,319
going on you can't totally rule it out

1358
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,839
but

1359
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,839
so he said

1360
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:51,920
it's funny he says i consider astrology

1361
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,880
and spoonbending but he goes you don't

1362
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,000
and i don't know exactly what he meant

1363
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,000
by that early on he said he kind of

1364
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:59,839
grouped them all together with ufos but

1365
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,880
he says

1366
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:02,480
you don't limit your scientists by

1367
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,760
holding them back holding back data

1368
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:07,920
however men how how's the government

1369
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:11,200
releasing the report but not the data

1370
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,720
kind of like reminds me of poltergeist

1371
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:14,240
how do you move to cemetery but you'll

1372
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,160
leave the bodies if anybody stop

1373
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:18,720
poltergeist he goes

1374
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:21,200
uh works of physics let me get back to

1375
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:25,670
oh

1376
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:32,309
works of physics and differential

1377
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,119
geometric mathematics is a small world

1378
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:36,720
he goes so there's a small amount of

1379
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,440
scientists who work in that he goes

1380
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:41,440
in most towns there are starbucks home

1381
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,640
depot

1382
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:44,640
he goes but theoretical physicists are

1383
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:46,720
rare he goes if we're facing something

1384
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:49,119
this profound there's no evidence our

1385
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,880
scientists know about it and the

1386
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:52,400
government is trying to rely on

1387
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:54,480
contractors instead

1388
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:56,240
they didn't call any theoretical

1389
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:59,040
physicists why not we're treating this

1390
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:00,720
as someone's play thing in the pentagon

1391
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:03,040
meanwhile they fly over our nucleus

1392
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:06,319
sites and he asks our sarcastic question

1393
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:08,880
he goes should we tell our own experts

1394
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:09,760
that

1395
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,319
we may be visited he goes no let's tell

1396
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,400
harvard not prince or princeton let's he

1397
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:15,839
goes

1398
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,160
harvard or princeton you know let's not

1399
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:22,160
tell our best expert experts let's just

1400
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:23,920
tell people in who work in you know

1401
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,799
compartmented uh aerospace companies he

1402
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,559
goes who the hell is making up this

1403
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:30,480
moronic policy

1404
00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:32,799
more from eric he goes

1405
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,880
it's not wrong you've to claim you've

1406
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:37,520
had an experience with a heptapod

1407
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:38,880
which i think would be like a praying

1408
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:41,839
mantis bean this is eric talking

1409
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:44,240
he goes he just wants to separate those

1410
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,040
claims from the uap data

1411
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:49,280
exactly i agree i do talk about all of

1412
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,280
that stuff but

1413
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:53,119
if you're talking about bringing

1414
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,440
somebody a scientist or a theoretical

1415
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,599
physicist physicist in

1416
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:59,119
like a group of them don't talk

1417
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,880
experiences eventually they'll get to

1418
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:02,480
that on their own keep it to the data

1419
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,599
right now

1420
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:05,839
he goes once again he goes

1421
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:09,040
effing pony up the data now he goes

1422
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,200
don't hold the don't hide the real data

1423
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,599
and release go fast that allows people

1424
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:16,000
like mick west to criticize it

1425
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:17,920
and others claim it's the most important

1426
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,680
thing ever really so it's like an

1427
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:21,440
extreme like the videos are the most

1428
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:22,799
important thing ever we know there's

1429
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:25,119
better data it's just we were so starved

1430
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,280
for government videos when those came

1431
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,599
out and i make the analogy it's like

1432
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,040
when they first came out it was like oh

1433
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,799
my god this is amazing it's like when

1434
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:34,160
you go to the beach and you live there

1435
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,760
and like i lived in the beach for a

1436
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,680
while it was incredible to come home see

1437
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:40,160
the water the ocean over the hill

1438
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,680
two years later they're like ah it's the

1439
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,839
ocean it's the sunset

1440
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,520
that's kind of how the ufo videos were

1441
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,119
he goes the government needs to come

1442
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,680
clean how long have you been lying why

1443
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:51,599
whose lives have you destroyed this is

1444
01:00:55,829 --> 01:00:54,000
eric he goes maybe we'll all die if the

1445
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:55,839
information is released

1446
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,880
okay well if that's the case so be it

1447
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,480
we can't answer this by ignoring the

1448
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:02,079
mainstream scientist and relying on

1449
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:08,309
and then sheehan says

1450
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,839
some go oh he talks i'm not going to get

1451
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:11,359
into they talk about the roswell slides

1452
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:13,040
and how they showed that you know it

1453
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,440
said the victims of the crash and that's

1454
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:17,440
still in doubt so

1455
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:20,400
um eric says

1456
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,359
feeding you know

1457
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:25,119
responding to the the roswell and the

1458
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:26,880
pictures comment from raymie had in his

1459
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,480
hand that were blurry back then but we

1460
01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:30,480
were able to clear some of them up

1461
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:32,079
eric says this would be the culmination

1462
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,760
where we find out

1463
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,520
what this place is and who's here and

1464
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:37,040
what it's about

1465
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:39,359
maybe it's our end

1466
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,480
oh okay

1467
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,160
maybe it's our end so the end of

1468
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:44,720
humanity he says it could be bleak

1469
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,359
maybe once we master fusion they wipe us

1470
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:49,599
out because we're such a threat

1471
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:52,000
this would be usually consequential he

1472
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:53,200
goes

1473
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,119
you mentioned crows are much swap

1474
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,440
smarter and whales and squids show us

1475
01:02:02,549 --> 01:01:59,359
how different and intelligent other life

1476
01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:04,470
on this planet and he goes everything

1477
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:05,839
would change

1478
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:07,359
if we were visited and it was

1479
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,200
acknowledged he goes

1480
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:10,799
right before you get access to the

1481
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,920
universe

1482
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,520
you know if they hack in he goes you

1483
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,440
fuse the nuclei and then you're

1484
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:17,760
basically altering the cosmos

1485
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,079
that you're about to be major players in

1486
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:21,839
you know this is when we uh he's talking

1487
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:23,119
about us

1488
01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:25,280
because others may have cracked it and

1489
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,119
see you know other other intelligence

1490
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:28,799
may have gotten that far and now they

1491
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,839
see us trying to do all these things and

1492
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:33,520
you know get the passwords and are we

1493
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:40,549
we became god-like in 1952-53 we

1494
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:42,799
unlocked the cell in the atom within six

1495
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:43,680
months

1496
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:49,510
for the beneficiary beneficiary of a

1497
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:52,160
75-year bizarre piece that no one can

1498
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:53,760
explain

1499
01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:55,680
uh is it possible that this report the

1500
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:57,599
uap report suggests there is a mound of

1501
01:03:02,950 --> 01:02:59,839
evidence showing we're not alone

1502
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,960
why aren't physicists and physicians in

1503
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:03,920
on this

1504
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:05,920
look at the long buried information with

1505
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:07,760
new tech we've been lied to about the

1506
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:13,670
and eric says he'll be moved if it turns

1507
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:15,599
out we're not alone and this

1508
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:17,280
intelligence report

1509
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:19,520
hasn't moved against us as as we become

1510
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:22,640
more dangerous yeah he goes

1511
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,839
i'm not sure if that's a right

1512
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,440
transcription by me it's very rough he

1513
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:26,799
goes he'd be moved if it turns out we're

1514
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:29,200
not alone in this intelligence hasn't

1515
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,880
moved against us as we become more

1516
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:33,359
dangerous yeah he goes if they're here

1517
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,960
you would think they would start acting

1518
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:36,640
as a

1519
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:38,319
semi-van said that you know socially

1520
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,640
cultural culture socialize or just try

1521
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:42,240
to influence us try to guide us in a

1522
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,880
certain direction by what they're doing

1523
01:03:48,549 --> 01:03:46,720
could be i hope that's like i said i

1524
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,559
hope that's what's going on

1525
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,880
it's all a positive effort on their part

1526
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,400
to move us in the right direction

1527
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:54,880
because even if it moves even if it

1528
01:03:59,829 --> 01:03:57,599
means our doom let the information out

1529
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,839
smart people are not in the know the

1530
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:02,160
dumb people who are in the know need to

1531
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,280
retire

1532
01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:05,839
get the f out of uap information and

1533
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:07,280
then whitley says

1534
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:08,799
he's holding it they're holding it back

1535
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:10,079
because they have failed and then they

1536
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:12,160
cut off whitley and then eric says i

1537
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:13,920
think i think there's terror among those

1538
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:14,799
people

1539
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:19,829
all right i'm going to try to skip ahead

1540
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:21,039
because i'm running out of time for the

1541
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:24,480
next lecture four minutes

1542
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:30,710
eric says ai intelligence that we

1543
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:32,799
possess is not needed for the tasks that

1544
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:38,390
i'm going to skip

1545
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:41,680
ahead to more eric stuff at the end

1546
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:47,990
whitley said he had a great deal of

1547
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,079
contact with inner circles

1548
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:51,440
um

1549
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:53,039
within the government for many years i

1550
01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:54,960
don't think they can can succeed if the

1551
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:57,119
private sector doesn't do it it's not

1552
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:58,319
going to happen so he thinks the

1553
01:05:02,630 --> 01:04:59,680
government is going to fail at trying to

1554
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:02,640
figure this out and we need us

1555
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:04,400
the private sector scientists and

1556
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:05,680
brightest minds otherwise we're not

1557
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:13,349
let me finish with

1558
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:14,880
and whitley talks about the hundreds of

1559
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:17,920
thousands of letters that came

1560
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,599
when he wrote communion from people who

1561
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:20,960
had serious

1562
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:23,039
similar experiences but different but

1563
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:24,880
even the ufo world rejected it because

1564
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:27,520
it was so hard to believe it was just so

1565
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:35,349
so he talks about experiences whitley

1566
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:37,599
does and how so many people have gone

1567
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,359
through this and how we could study

1568
01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:42,000
their brains with fmris and then and

1569
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:43,760
eric says if your friend is accused of

1570
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:45,520
something you don't know is true or

1571
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,319
false and he mentions schrodinger

1572
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,640
schroedinger's truth teller he goes if

1573
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:52,799
you had a mystery encounter he goes but

1574
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:54,720
i don't want to mix uap data with your

1575
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,440
experience your accounts once we know

1576
01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:59,200
that these objects are not part of our

1577
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:02,000
society e.t or whatever then we can look

1578
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:03,599
into the experiences and then what he

1579
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:04,799
goes i don't think we're ever going to

1580
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:06,240
know that

1581
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:08,000
i think at some point we'll realize

1582
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:10,880
these objects 100 are not part of our

1583
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:12,640
society

1584
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:14,559
i'm going to finish off with

1585
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:16,960
eric

1586
01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:22,549
my circles are clueless clueless on the

1587
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:24,559
subject

1588
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:29,910
whitley says it's not true that we can't

1589
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:31,920
compete with these intelligences i can't

1590
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:33,599
say more

1591
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:35,440
yeah because we probably shot him down

1592
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:36,799
and that's still going on it's probably

1593
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:38,640
what he's alluding to

1594
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:39,359
and

1595
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:41,440
weinstein weinstein says

1596
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:42,880
it's about consciousness it's about

1597
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,640
consciousness he goes but some aspect is

1598
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:46,559
about physics when you tell me that two

1599
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:48,079
people can communicate across the room

1600
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:49,839
telepathy are you telling me there's

1601
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,160
some sub physics and then he says the

1602
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:54,240
word woo

1603
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,280
um

1604
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:57,839
he goes there are unknown he goes why

1605
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:00,240
does every conversation involve bob

1606
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:03,520
lazar well it doesn't but he goes valet

1607
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:06,400
eric davis he goes those are unknown

1608
01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:08,079
those are unknown people i would expect

1609
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,000
to know about

1610
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:12,799
they are unknown

1611
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:14,240
they are not the people i would expect

1612
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,520
to know about those he goes the

1613
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:17,440
manhattan project was all the big name

1614
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,960
scientists he goes why do i keep getting

1615
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:20,799
claims that these aerospace companies

1616
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:23,200
have the science we don't know about

1617
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:24,079
because

1618
01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:26,960
it's probably in my opinion true uh he

1619
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:28,480
goes the world's trying to figure out

1620
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:30,160
all these big physical questions if

1621
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:32,000
there is knowledge does hal put off no

1622
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:34,480
things that the big names don't know yes

1623
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,920
because of stigma they don't even want

1624
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:37,200
to consider it

1625
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,880
the old galileo telescope they won't

1626
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:40,880
even look at it or

1627
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:42,559
as dylan said maybe they do know and

1628
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:44,000
they just don't talk about it i don't

1629
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:45,280
think that's the case i mean obviously

1630
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:46,720
some scientists who are read into these

1631
01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:49,440
program programs do know

1632
01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:50,720
and um

1633
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:51,920
so

1634
01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:54,400
but the big names are just pretending

1635
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,839
they don't know i don't think so

1636
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:59,520
uh eric says let's assume a bunch of

1637
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:01,039
these scientists have their clearances

1638
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:03,039
and ready to go then you have members of

1639
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:04,400
the a team

1640
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:07,039
you know eric davis but eric davis

1641
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,559
doesn't have access to the crash

1642
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,000
retrieval program as far as i know so

1643
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,839
you have the people small amount of

1644
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,440
people who are right into the crash

1645
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:15,680
retrieval program he goes and then you

1646
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,279
have the a team of scientists he goes

1647
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,799
how does it how is it possible that a

1648
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:20,640
team isn't involved

1649
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,349
and then you know dolan says maybe the

1650
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:29,199
18 does know so eric says it's possible

1651
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,040
but everybody in theoretical physics

1652
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,359
physics community was aware of the the

1653
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:35,359
atomic bomb but i keep having to hear

1654
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:37,040
about lazar i don't know why he kept

1655
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:39,279
bringing up lazar i mean i think i might

1656
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:40,159
but

1657
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:41,440
everybody i keep hearing having to hear

1658
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:43,040
about put off is a lot you know put off

1659
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:45,679
as an electrical engineer phd lazar

1660
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caltech a world filled with cell phones

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and we're not even capturing good

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evidence of this phenomenon i spoke to

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brandon fugle reasonable guy who then

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tells me something that rocks my world

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and we're having a dinner and i asked

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the other people about the dinner and

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they're like ah it was a boring dinner

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same same things same old same old and

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eric's like are you aware that someone

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claimed an encounter with a spaceship on

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a mesa

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it's funny people who were there who

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probably are interested or had

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experience it's no big deal but for him

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it's like mind-blowing it's kind of nice

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01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:16,799
to see inside to people like that who

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are just getting into this

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01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,520
he says it doesn't look like anything

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01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,040
like the manhattan project or the

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jason's which semivan mentioned the

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other day like this really bright

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group of scientists who are asked by the

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government to work on problems he says

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01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:33,679
you talk about weird talks it's not you

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01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:36,400
know hal and hal was saying you know he

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01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:38,319
was worried he hal didn't know his talk

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01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:40,640
was on vimeo this is eric yeah because

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01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:42,080
dolan had to tell him this talk was on

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01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:44,719
vimeo he goes i'm open but there's no

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01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,839
great

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01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,960
videos he goes i'm open to the

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01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,719
possibility there are no great videos

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01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:52,560
because these objects only menace our

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01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,280
most dangerous stuff over nuclear areas

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01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:57,440
in our in our you know carrier strike

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01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:58,880
groups but there we know there are

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01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,480
better there are sightings all over the

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place except we don't have that kind of

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01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,640
data and like

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01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:06,640
in slide nine can they affect people to

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01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,719
not take pictures i don't know i don't

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01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,480
think it's just over the navy and air

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01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,800
force or military and none of us think

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01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,239
that but he doesn't know enough about

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01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,640
the data problem i'm having is i want to

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01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:19,120
hear something where they say

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01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:20,480
we could the government says we couldn't

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01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:22,880
tell our best scientists you know

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01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,239
i don't think there's a secret

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01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,560
university system this is eric

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01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:28,320
something is missing

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01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,920
why don't we get better video with

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01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,679
everybody having iphones in their

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01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:34,320
pockets folks are in charge of using

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01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,400
fear uncertainty to destroy everyone who

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01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:37,920
takes an interest in this subject he

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01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:39,360
seems like he's going back and forth you

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01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:42,239
know it's like he realizes that

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01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:44,560
over the decades you know they've used

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01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,080
fear this

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01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,840
men in black type group that lou talks

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01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,440
about you know they've used fear

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01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:51,840
uncertainty you know robinson robertson

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01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:54,560
panel to destroy everyone who takes an

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01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:56,560
interest in this subject he compares it

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01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,080
to how progressives are you know

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01:11:01,510 --> 01:11:00,159
targeted by the government and doesn't

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01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:01,520
matter if you're not a progressive he

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01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,120
does see at least he makes the

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01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:05,280
comparison and he knows that kind of

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01:11:09,790 --> 01:11:08,239
thing has gone on in the past

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01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:09,800
he goes i'm looking for some sort of

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01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:12,640
co-intel type program you know that's

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01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,480
managing this why do i listen to eric

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01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,480
davis put off valet i don't have

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01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,400
anything against them but it's the same

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01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:20,640
tiny stable of people as i've said

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01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,239
before because those people have the

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01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,760
balls to talk about it publicly i mean

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01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:25,679
look at it's a big deal for even him to

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01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,600
talk about it that took him forever why

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01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:29,280
doesn't he see that other scientists are

1743
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:31,520
just like eric weinstein you know it

1744
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:33,760
takes a special person like eric davis

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01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:36,880
kid green hal put off jacques valet eric

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01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,840
you know

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01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:39,600
gary nolan there's not a lot of people

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01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:40,719
out there that are willing to put their

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01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,800
name on the subject especially 10 20

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01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,239
years ago

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01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:46,000
dolan says reason people keep talking

1752
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:47,760
about hal and davis is because it's only

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01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,430
and the whole breakthrough in 2017 with

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01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:57,040
the new york times

1755
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,480
and eric says you think the people who

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01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:00,560
had been read in are still going by

1757
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:02,560
einsteining in physics so the people in

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01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:04,400
these black programs he's wondering have

1759
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,480
they figured out something behind beyond

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01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,960
einstein physics and dolan says maybe

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01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,480
because i wouldn't be surprised it's not

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01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:12,239
that they're more advanced than what we

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01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,679
it's not that more because i wouldn't be

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01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:15,679
surprised if it's not that more advanced

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01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,120
than what we use

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01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,960
you hear 50 years ahead but i don't know

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01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:20,640
about that

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01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,320
whitley's like why then why all the

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01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,239
secrecy and dolan brings up roswell and

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01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:25,920
how you don't want to tell your enemy

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01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,600
you want to take this technology and

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01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:29,600
study it for yourself and then as time

1773
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,080
goes by how do you come clean and then

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01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:33,600
weinstein says it's just i hear this

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01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:36,080
endless ridiculous conversations and he

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01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:37,760
goes the son of the still living most

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01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:39,840
famous of the most famous anti-gravity

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01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,920
gravity researchers from the 50s i need

1779
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:43,280
to look that up again because i miss

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01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,640
those names

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01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:46,960
related to anti-gravity and then whitley

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01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,760
says something is terribly wrong

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01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,360
or this disconnect that you've been

1784
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,760
exploring wouldn't be there it does not

1785
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:55,840
look like it does not look

1786
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:58,800
scary as you've seen in the past we need

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01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:00,480
to do this outside of the government

1788
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,440
materials propulsion and the witnesses

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01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,360
and whitley was given the last word

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01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:07,120
because whitley did not was not given a

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01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:08,239
lot of time

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01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:10,560
to speak so

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01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:12,159
and i can't take questions i want to go

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01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:13,760
listen to that next

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01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:15,920
lecture

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01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:17,760
you guys are interested that's my

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01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:19,360
patreon

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01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:20,640
that is

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01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,880
my

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paypal

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01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:25,440
and

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i'm gonna go

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listen to don schmidt and take notes on

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01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:36,320
that hopefully this was good i'll check

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01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:38,400
the comments later leaves feedback

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01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:40,800
positive and negative that's fine

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01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:42,239
had problems i don't know why that stuff

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01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,840
was going black when i was clicking on

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01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,600
it but and i know i rambled a little and

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01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,520
lost my place but i have so many notes

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01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,800
that i didn't even get to so i'll talk

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to you guys tomorrow